I have to agree with Aretain on this--probably one of the few times I've ever agreed with him, but I digress... Players should not be writing their own history for canon characters and certainly not entire Kingdoms like Stormwind. It forces other roleplayers to either accept such nonsense or ignore those characters who support it, neither of which is very productive.

I saw this page dedicated to the house of Wrynn for the first time this evening and my initial reaction was "Did someone vandalize the wiki?" This is no bueno. If you want to write your own Noble house and map out its origins, by all means. Don't presume to force your version of the house of Wrynn's history on other roleplayers and certainly don't post it on a community wiki! Some poor, unfortunate roleplayer who doesn't know any better might actually take this page as a legitimate source of lore.

At the very least, post a large disclaimer that states NONE of the information contained in the house's history is considered canon.

Moon Guard certainly needs a wiki and this wiki is a very positive thing for the community, but pages like this should be kept separate from what is canon. Perhaps a category for "Player-written lore" would be a suitable place for it, though at present, the delete button comes to mind first and foremost.

The whole point of this wiki is to blend in-character fanon with the environment that is Blizzard's Azeroth. There are disclaimers on this wiki that already point that out.

Slapping "Lore Dubious" titles on things will only start a dangerous and snowballing precedent where any reference to anything in the game can and will be picked apart as non-canon.

Some examples:

"Your character isn't mentioned as being in the Stormwind Guard in lore, mark that as non-canon!"

"Your character didn't inherit this land in lore, mark that as non-canon!"

"Your character's noble house isn't mentioned in lore, mark that as non-canon!"

"Your character is never mentioned by the king, mark his service as non-canon!"

"The king wouldn't ever allow that event to happen, mark this as non-canon!"

I purposefully tried not to include any far-reaching consequences when I wrote what I did for the House of Wrynn, and only wished to expand upon the non-existant history of nothingness that Blizzard left us for people to consider to use if they wanted to.

If you have a different history in mind for the House of Wrynn and want to post it that has information conflicting with what I wrote, post it up and we will make a disambiguation. But please don't tear down trivial dates and names that were added for flavor for the sake of being "pure."

I posted this some time ago. Here it is again, since it seems relevant.

If you object strongly, go edit the page and add a disclaimer, or redirect it to House of Wrynn (Maxen) and create a House of Wrynn (canonical) page without any of the additions.

@ Everen - I don't edit anyone's page unless I have been given permission to do so. I generally consider that to be vandalizing other people's work, however much I may wish to fix it.

@ Maxen - Perhaps the tone of my original post was a tad harsh, but I stand by the opinion that a roleplayer should not be rewriting the history of a lore character's house/Kingdom and if they do, it ought to carry a disclaimer at the top of the page, such as the one Everen uses on his "Laws of Arathor" so as not to confuse the new folks who don't know any better.

"I purposefully tried not to include any far-reaching consequences when I wrote what I did for the House of Wrynn, and only wished to expand upon the non-existant history of nothingness that Blizzard left us for people to consider to use if they wanted to."

Stormwind never fought a war against the empire of Arathor. Arathor was not Rome. It wasn't Skyrim either, but people seem to want it to be. The point is some kid who doesn't know any better is going to read that and believe it to be canon, which will get him into trouble later on with guilds that do abide by the lore.

I'm all for getting creative with the things Blizzard fails to touch on, but there's a difference between writing the history of your character's own Noble house and doing it with characters and Kingdoms that are canon.

Anyway... I won't go on for hours about this as I am prone to doing, so I'll leave it at this. A disclaimer at the top of pages like this would be nice for the new folks who may not know any better and use it as a source of canon lore.

We all appreciate what it is you're trying to do with this wiki and as someone who has built and maintains three wikis, I know how much work goes into it. 

http://www.wowwiki.com/Stormwind_(kingdom)

There is no evidence here or anywhere else in any of the books and additional canon content to suggest that Stormwind fought a war against the Empire of Arathor to become a sovereign power. Admittedly, it would be pretty damn cool if that's the way it happened, but it didn't happen that way... Descendants of the Arathi tribes migrated south and formed a Kingdom. They probably contended with gnolls and who knows what else, but they didn't fight some epic war against the Empire of Arathor. So... you've essentially changed the course of history for two Kingdoms by saying it did happen that way. That's not a small addition by any stretch of the imagination, which is why I felt it deserved a disclaimer at the top of the page.

And now I promise, this is the last you'll hear from me on this subject.

Oh, a Skyrim dig. Nice.

I'll put up a disclaimer. I'm just very wary that this will lead to further picking apart of fanon on the site.

My question is where do you believe the cutoff is? There are a number of guilds and individuals on the server who claim homage to significant lore organizations and have written texts and documents out of their own imagination. Combing through every single article on this wiki for things that deviate from or "fill in" lore holes will take a lot of effort.

I think any content that significantly alters the course of history for a prominent lore figure/Kingdom should carry such a disclaimer. 

Now that's not to say we need to go over every guild's history with a fine-toothed comb. Lore organizations had many members and those members had their own, unique experiences, such as missions, battles, political dealings, etc.

I could probably nit pick a dozen examples of people saying their character was a blood relation to a lore character and while it irks me to see them, most folks do it in a way that is very vague, so as to avoid rewriting a significant portion of history.

I'll add more to this when I've had more coffee, but to put it simply... Wiki pages that contain content that significantly alters the history of prominent lore figures and Kingdoms should be the only ones that require such a disclaimer.

Small Edit: I read the disclaimer you posted. It's absolutely perfect. Well done.

Alright, I think you've made a fair point. I myself have to go out and about for the day. You are free to edit any 'major' lore pages to add disclaimers similar to the one I put on the House of Wrynn's.